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Post by Kayorei on Nov 6, 2008 16:39:52 GMT -5
As stated in the Yayness thread, Armadox and I have brainstormed a number of ideas pertaining to the website and the forum. I've been meaning to break away from Proboards for quite some time, considering I don't really like this place from an administrative standpoint.
Anyway, to the point. Here's what I have planned for the forum itself.
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First of all, whole new forum altogether. Start again from scratch. As stated before, Proboards leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to running the place.
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Next up, Challenge Taker personal boards. To be honest, I regretted using the term "Official" to describe the CTs that had their own boards from the very beginning. It promoted elitism, among other things. Not to mention everyone having their own boards made things cluttered and a royal pain to monitor activity for. It was a tough decision, but I've decided that in the new forum, there will be no "OCTs".
Forum-based challenge taking will return to being thread-based. I know there's going to be some protest and I don't really like the idea of things being disorganized either, but that's the only solution I have to this dilemma.
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Finally, certain sections are going to get a bit of an expansion. "General" will be split into General Chat and General Gaming as well as a board being a Vent/Yayness/Hello Everyone thread all rolled into a single board. "Role-Playing" will become a full creative section, including writing, RPing, and art.
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That's what you have to dread/look forward to in the hopefully near future now that work is actually being done on the website. I intend on the releases of the new forum and the new website to coincide. That is all.
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Post by Forci S. on Nov 6, 2008 16:52:26 GMT -5
...So if we're getting out of Proboards, then what are we going to move to?
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Post by Foozdude on Nov 6, 2008 16:55:24 GMT -5
Challenge Taker personal boards. To be honest, I regretted using the term "Official" to describe the CTs that had their own boards from the very beginning. It promoted elitism, among other things. Not to mention everyone having their own boards made things cluttered and a royal pain to monitor activity for. It was a tough decision, but I've decided that in the new forum, there will be no "OCTs". Forum-based challenge taking will return to being thread-based. I know there's going to be some protest and I don't really like the idea of things being disorganized either, but that's the only solution I have to this dilemma. I do not have an opinion on this matter, but it does seem promising for other lesser-known Challenge Takers. Finally, certain sections are going to get a bit of an expansion. "General" will be split into General Chat and General Gaming as well as a board being a Vent/Yayness/Hello Everyone thread all rolled into a single board. "Role-Playing" will become a full creative section, including writing, RPing, and art. Good to hear about the Creative Section, good to hear about personal threads when it comes to whining, venting, and jumping for joy. Although, I expect many of the threads to remain untouched by others due to favouritism and popularity - it doesn't matter how severe something is if the person is popular enough. A few questions, if I may: Are the moderators going to remain the same, or will new ones be appointed as well (such as Armadox or Mal) for the newer sections? Will this old forum be left inactive or deleted? Will have to scrap the images I've been doing for buttons and such in order to find replacements for whatever we would have in the new forum? When (rough estimate) can we expect this change in hosts to occur?
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Post by Kayorei on Nov 6, 2008 16:55:57 GMT -5
Syaro: Unless I wind up having a forum put on the same hosting I'll be using on the site (which is unlikely, considering bandwidth issues), it'll very likely be InvisionFree.
Foozdude: The staff will remain the same, with a couple of additions, most likely.
This forum will be inactive, with a link directing to the new place, considering people may forget to update links or bookmarks, or the forum URL was mentioned in a video.
Well, chances are I'll try to salvage smileys and what have you, but other than that, the images on the forum will probably get a complete overhaul. I intend to have several different styles made for it, including one that doesn't favor any particular game series, which I should have done a long time ago.
I don't know for certain when the change will be made. It could be a week, it could be a month, it could be longer. I'm hoping for the former here.
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Post by Foozdude on Nov 6, 2008 17:12:41 GMT -5
Foozdude: The staff will remain the same, with a couple of additions, most likely. Acknowledged. This forum will be inactive, with a link directing to the new place, considering people may forget to update links or bookmarks, or the forum URL was mentioned in a video. Fair enough. Well, chances are I'll try to salvage smileys and what have you, but other than that, the images on the forum will probably get a complete overhaul. I intend to have several different styles made for it, including one that doesn't favor any particular game series, which I should have done a long time ago. Understandable. The different skins would be tedious to create, but much better than the single custom one we have currently. I don't know for certain when the change will be made. It could be a week, it could be a month, it could be longer. I'm hoping for the former here. Noted. All in all, it's a good change, but the limits InvisionFree has for the ordinary user makes for a let-down of a change, to an extent. Yes, it's good for the staff for administrative duties, but aside from that, it has less non-HTML features than ProBoards does. Of course I'll cope, but considering it misses even the alignment tool... Well, those are my thoughts on the inevitable.
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Post by Crawdaunt PWNS! on Nov 6, 2008 18:10:50 GMT -5
Forum-based challenge taking will return to being thread-based. I know there's going to be some protest and I don't really like the idea of things being disorganized either, but that's the only solution I have to this dilemma. . I think I have an Idea for this. You could give EVery staff members, Including Syaro or maybe future mods, to have the ''power'' of creating sub-forum. That way, EVERYONE, and by everyone, I mean the ''O''CTs and the newbies CT to have their own section, no discrimination of ''WHo has made at least 20 challenge?'' I'd, however, keep the ''must have guidelines somewhere''. Justan Idea tho. You could make a section called ''Challenge Takers'' (Like the RP-Area, General Board etc.) And in this section, have the sub-forum for everyone who wishe to be a CT
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Post by Forci S. on Nov 6, 2008 18:14:26 GMT -5
........No. No, I refuse to stand aside quietly this time. To be honest, I regretted using the term "Official" to describe the CTs that had their own boards from the very beginning. It promoted elitism, among other things. Elitism? Most of the elitism here came from only a select few members, the most of severe of which having been banned. I can tell you that just losing the OCT label won't do that much towards stopping any elitism that might show up from the current/future members, and I say that knowing full well that I'm part of the guilty party. If you're worried about the label placing the wrong idea into somebody's head (and I can see where you're coming from), maybe the more politically correct term of "Experienced" would be better. Not to mention everyone having their own boards made things cluttered and a royal pain to monitor activity for. ...? When the time of the newest posting for each forum is clearly displayed on the front page? Forum-based challenge taking will return to being thread-based. I know there's going to be some protest and I don't really like the idea of things being disorganized either, but that's the only solution I have to this dilemma. Alright, I know you expect people to complain about losing their boards, but let's try looking at this from a more practical standpoint: you want to solve the problem of multiple CT boards being cluttered by tossing them all into a single board? That seems pretty counter-productive to me. Not to mention that this would take the problem of CT's threads being bumped off that has already plagued the Challenge someone else board and compound on it by adding the OCTs/ECTs into the mix. To use a metaphor, you're killing a rat by dropping a nuke. You may be getting rid of a problem, but your solution for doing so is overkill and will most definitely lead to even larger problems down the road. Finally, certain sections are going to get a bit of an expansion. "General" will be split into General Chat and General Gaming as well as a board being a Vent/Yayness/Hello Everyone thread all rolled into a single board. "Role-Playing" will become a full creative section, including writing, RPing, and art. The creative section idea I agree with, and I have no complaints with dividing up the General section (depending on where we draw the line between them, anyway), but turning those threads into a full board? This has the same problems that dissolving the CT boards does: if you think checking a few threads for a couple new replies is a pain, how do you think having to check 6-20 new threads will be? That would just be a massive promotion of spam and dead threads that could just as easily be alleviated by keeping the existing thread style and sticking them in this General Chat section, where the name screams that they would belong. ...It strikes me that, between removing individual CT forums and expanding the others, your changes are placing less focus on the Challenge Takers themselves and more on this being a basic forum...when in reality, it should be the other way around. After all, this forum was started with the CTs in mind, wasn't it? What sense does it make to take focus away from the forum's basic purpose? I think I have an Idea for this. You could give EVery staff members, Including Syaro or maybe future mods, to have the ''power'' of creating sub-forum. That way, EVERYONE, and by everyone, I mean the ''O''CTs and the newbies CT to have their own section, no discrimination of ''WHo has made at least 20 challenge?'' I'd, however, keep the ''must have guidelines somewhere''. Justan Idea tho. You could make a section called ''Challenge Takers'' (Like the RP-Area, General Board etc.) And in this section, have the sub-forum for everyone who wishe to be a CT ...That actually makes more sense, although it still has the same problem that I pointed out with going back to everybody having threads; there might end up being too many to dig through.
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Post by Kayorei on Nov 6, 2008 18:18:39 GMT -5
I think I have an Idea for this. You could give EVery staff members, Including Syaro or maybe future mods, to have the ''power'' of creating sub-forum. That way, EVERYONE, and by everyone, I mean the ''O''CTs and the newbies CT to have their own section, no discrimination of ''WHo has made at least 20 challenge?'' I'd, however, keep the ''must have guidelines somewhere''. Justan Idea tho. You could make a section called ''Challenge Takers'' (Like the RP-Area, General Board etc.) And in this section, have the sub-forum for everyone who wishe to be a CT That'd be extremely high-maintenance, though. Even then, it'd still have the same problem as giving everyone a board on the main page: keeping track of everything to make sure that outdated things get disposed of. Dead threads get lost or pruned. Dead boards have to be disposed of by hand. Elitism? Most of the elitism here came from only a select few members, the most of severe of which having been banned. I can tell you that just losing the OCT label won't do that much towards stopping any elitism that might show up from the current/future members, and I say that knowing full well that I'm part of the guilty party. If you're worried about the label placing the wrong idea into somebody's head (and I can see where you're coming from), maybe the more politically correct term of "Experienced" would be better. Let's put it this way. I don't like to differentiate CTs by how much experience they have or anything. I want everyone to be relatively equal. Even the solution that was tabled that I eventually ran with grates on me a bit. I, however, can't think of anything better. It's not always the person who runs the board that makes the last post. Case in point: Bardpado. Bardpado's last post in that board was in August. Most recent post in that board is November. See where I'm going? The only solution that was ever really proposed that seemed feasible was separating the CT board into three: "Beginner" which held everyone below 50 completed challenges, "Novice" which held everyone between 50 and 100, and "Advanced" which held everyone between 100 and 500. Everyone who managed to breach 500 got their own board. If you have anything better, tell me. You also have to keep in mind that I haven't performed any administrative action here in quite some time. I've been thinking like an average forumer and not like an admin when I made this. I do see where you're going with that, but... Because focus has already been shifted away and I have no idea how to shift it back again. Look around. There's been more RPing and chatting and forum gaming than there have been challenges. Only half of the OCT boards have their most recent posts within the last month, and only four of those are even in this month, however young it is. And that's going by only most recent posts, not necessarily the board owner's most recently-completed challenge. If you have any way whatsoever to remedy this, let me hear it. A little FYI... this forum's original purpose was a means of communication while YouTube's PM system was messed up. This place was never supposed to happen. It was, at its heart, always a basic forum, just with a little CTing on the side. When you really look at it, is it really that different from what we have right now?
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Post by Forci S. on Nov 6, 2008 19:37:28 GMT -5
Let's put it this way. I don't like to differentiate CTs by how much experience they have or anything. I want everyone to be relatively equal. Even the solution that was tabled that I eventually ran with grates on me a bit. I, however, can't think of anything better. ...The unfortunate fact is, not all of the CTs are going to be equal. There's always going to be a difference in experience or general popularity, no matter how you look at it. If we stick, say, LE and Shinji in the same forum as other CTs who have yet to finish even 10 challenges, more attention is going to go to LE & Shinji. It's not always the person who runs the board that makes the last post. Case in point: Bardpado. Bardpado's last post in that board was in August. Most recent post in that board is November. See where I'm going? Would a single thread really be much different in that respect, though? The only solution that was ever really proposed that seemed feasible was separating the CT board into three: "Beginner" which held everyone below 50 completed challenges, "Novice" which held everyone between 50 and 100, and "Advanced" which held everyone between 100 and 500. Everyone who managed to breach 500 got their own board. If you have anything better, tell me. Wouldn't that be differentiating by how much experience a CT has?That's at least better than sticking everybody in one spot, but 500!?? That might keep the forum less cluttered board-wise, but talk about promoting elitism... I'll come back to you on that after brainstorming a bit. You also have to keep in mind that I haven't performed any administrative action here in quite some time. I've been thinking like an average forumer and not like an admin when I made this. I do see where you're going with that, but... You might want to shift back into that mindset before going ahead with some of this, then. After all, I'm only a Moderator, but I can already see a bunch of trouble you would be creating for the entire staff. Because focus has already been shifted away and I have no idea how to shift it back again. Look around. There's been more RPing and chatting and forum gaming than there have been challenges. Only half of the OCT boards have their most recent posts within the last month, and only four of those are even in this month, however young it is. And that's going by only most recent posts, not necessarily the board owner's most recently-completed challenge. If you have any way whatsoever to remedy this, let me hear it. Just because there's no apparent answer to how to shift the focus back doesn't exactly mean you should go ahead and shift it away even more, does it? Besides, that problem...is more about the lack of "new blood" around here. As several of us have noted, there have been less challenges lately because of a lack of originality among the forum regulars, making any challenges turn out bland and unoriginal. After all, the original point behind the website was as a way to attract new people here for this very purpose, wasn't it? I mean, that's what the whole discussion was about back then. But, attracting people to the forum won't help this as much if the focus of the forum is intentionally shifted further away from it. A little FYI... this forum's original purpose was a means of communication while YouTube's PM system was messed up. This place was never supposed to happen. It was, at its heart, always a basic forum, just with a little CTing on the side. When you really look at it, is it really that different from what we have right now? My mistake, then.
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Post by Foozdude on Nov 6, 2008 19:50:47 GMT -5
Just because there's no apparent answer to how to shift the focus back doesn't exactly mean you should go ahead and shift it away even more, does it? Besides, that problem...is more about the lack of "new blood" around here. As several of us have noted, there have been less challenges lately because of a lack of originality among the forum regulars, making any challenges turn out bland and unoriginal. After all, the original point behind the website was as a way to attract new people here for this very purpose, wasn't it? I mean, that's what the whole discussion was about back then. But, attracting people to the forum won't help this as much if the focus of the forum is intentionally shifted further away from it. This may be the wrong thread, but if you're worried about new people, it's how we portray the forum that also contributes to the lack of new members. We advertise it as a Challenge Taking-only society since we don't bother to elaborate on any other parts such as the role-plays or just the general chats. That's why we get rather poor new challenge-issuers, or trolls. I do not recall a member ever advertising the site for anything besides Mega Man Battle Network (which was not really well received by the majority of the Mega Man fans to begin with), not to mention when there's other sites that have bigger names than us, such as Rockman Perfect Memories, or The Under-Square. Kayorei maintaining the forum to be more chat-oriented (perhaps the wrong wording; more general and open to discussion?) and newbie-friendly isn't exactly ruining our chances at more members, since they could always be attracted to issuing challenges at a later date after having been accustomed to the fluidity and activities of the forum. I admit to not having seen every single Challenge Taker, let alone their advertisements, and I cannot say for certain what direction the public wants a forum to go in, but that is what I conclude personally.
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Post by Inebriated Gamer on Nov 6, 2008 20:00:24 GMT -5
In ever plan, there will be those whom embrace change, and those who fight it tooth and nail. This will not be diffrent. I think I have an Idea for this. You could give EVery staff members, Including Syaro or maybe future mods, to have the ''power'' of creating sub-forum. That way, EVERYONE, and by everyone, I mean the ''O''CTs and the newbies CT to have their own section, no discrimination of ''WHo has made at least 20 challenge?'' I'd, however, keep the ''must have guidelines somewhere''. Justan Idea tho. You could make a section called ''Challenge Takers'' (Like the RP-Area, General Board etc.) And in this section, have the sub-forum for everyone who wishe to be a CT That'd be extremely high-maintenance, though. Even then, it'd still have the same problem as giving everyone a board on the main page: keeping track of everything to make sure that outdated things get disposed of. Dead threads get lost or pruned. Dead boards have to be disposed of by hand. Let's put it this way. I don't like to differentiate CTs by how much experience they have or anything. I want everyone to be relatively equal. Even the solution that was tabled that I eventually ran with grates on me a bit. I, however, can't think of anything better. It's not always the person who runs the board that makes the last post. Case in point: Bardpado. Bardpado's last post in that board was in August. Most recent post in that board is November. See where I'm going? The only solution that was ever really proposed that seemed feasible was separating the CT board into three: "Beginner" which held everyone below 50 completed challenges, "Novice" which held everyone between 50 and 100, and "Advanced" which held everyone between 100 and 500. Everyone who managed to breach 500 got their own board. If you have anything better, tell me. You also have to keep in mind that I haven't performed any administrative action here in quite some time. I've been thinking like an average forumer and not like an admin when I made this. I do see where you're going with that, but... Cting was originally challenging oneself, to reach the next rung, the bigger score, the extra life, but that isn't the point anymore. It's become challenging each other, and with that, popularity beats skill hands down. New people should be able to be pit next to you "vets" in a way that brings the competition you've already shown interest in in a way that makes it fun for everyone. Or least those whom care about being on top. There will be a hall of fame board made to make this interesting, and hopefully boil the stagnate pot a little. This will not stop elitism, anywhere there is challenge there will be those whom feel their skills outshine others. This will only makes those who are "elitist", have to deserve their status. No more sitting around with a stale board, when other smaller players are waiting their turn. Because focus has already been shifted away and I have no idea how to shift it back again. Look around. There's been more RPing and chatting and forum gaming than there have been challenges. Only half of the OCT boards have their most recent posts within the last month, and only four of those are even in this month, however young it is. And that's going by only most recent posts, not necessarily the board owner's most recently-completed challenge. If you have any way whatsoever to remedy this, let me hear it. A little FYI... this forum's original purpose was a means of communication while YouTube's PM system was messed up. This place was never supposed to happen. It was, at its heart, always a basic forum, just with a little CTing on the side. When you really look at it, is it really that different from what we have right now? Why focus on the smallest core group, and cater to them, when you can gain more people and thus more people looking at CT by expanding? Catching flies only requires the right bait. What you seem to not notice, is the site dedicated to this new forum structure will still have challenge taking as part of it, but non-CT members ( like myself) will prosper from other additions that interest us as well. This isn't going to be "just challenge takers, everyone else gtfo", this will be a healthy enviroment for a broader spectrum of fans, gamers, challengers, and artists to show off their opinions, skill, and ideas. Right now, Cters aren't a major part of the forums business as it is, as more poeple enjoy pulling from other stuff. Was it not you ( plural) whom mentioned in multiple posts how the forums are dying, and such? Well, this is a boot to the ass of the forum to give it a new spin, and a means for everyone to enjoy something. You should not be arguing the loss of personal boards, when your gaining a full fledge community and site! At Kayorei's expense none the less! She is trying to be more envolved with what makes this place great, and right now all the forum has become is argumenative, stagnate, and brooding for better days. The way I see it, any "new blood" coming to the site as it is, will only be met with bottom rung interference that pushes them in a corner. So, in the start over, push EVERYONE in the corner. New people will raise up, and more people will be happier in the long run. This is why in most competition, the season starts over empty every year. With the "best of the best" so popular, joe nintendo won't have a chance at gaining any real interest. Cting has been a part of kay's life, and was the reason this board was created originally, but it's draining on her with very little reward. She even admits it's a long time due that change was present, and this was the biggest way to bring the most interest to the most people.
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Post by Forci S. on Nov 6, 2008 20:27:36 GMT -5
This may be the wrong thread, but if you're worried about new people, it's how we portray the forum that also contributes to the lack of new members. We advertise it as a Challenge Taking-only society since we don't bother to elaborate on any other parts such as the role-plays or just the general chats. That's why we get rather poor new challenge-issuers, or trolls. I do not recall a member ever advertising the site for anything besides Mega Man Battle Network (which was not really well received by the majority of the Mega Man fans to begin with), not to mention when there's other sites that have bigger names than us, such as Rockman Perfect Memories, or The Under-Square. Kayorei maintaining the forum to be more chat-oriented (perhaps the wrong wording; more general and open to discussion?) and newbie-friendly isn't exactly ruining our chances at more members, since they could always be attracted to issuing challenges at a later date after having been accustomed to the fluidity and activities of the forum. I admit to not having seen every single Challenge Taker, let alone their advertisements, and I cannot say for certain what direction the public wants a forum to go in, but that is what I conclude personally. ...Honestly, it depends on the balance. Giving a bit more focus to normal chatting could bring in a few new members if done right, I'll admit...but it would still take away from the CT portion of the site. Take away too much and those new members would be deterred from issuing any challenges, even once they've begun to fit in. In ever plan, there will be those whom embrace change, and those who fight it tooth and nail. This will not be diffrent. Cting was originally challenging oneself, to reach the next rung, the bigger score, the extra life, but that isn't the point anymore. It's become challenging each other, and with that, popularity beats skill hands down. New people should be able to be pit next to you "vets" in a way that brings the competition you've already shown interest in in a way that makes it fun for everyone. Or least those whom care about being on top. There will be a hall of fame board made to make this interesting, and hopefully boil the stagnate pot a little. This will not stop elitism, anywhere there is challenge there will be those whom feel their skills outshine others. This will only makes those who are "elitist", have to deserve their status. No more sitting around with a stale board, when other smaller players are waiting their turn. Why focus on the smallest core group, and cater to them, when you can gain more people and thus more people looking at CT by expanding? Catching flies only requires the right bait. What you seem to not notice, is the site dedicated to this new forum structure will still have challenge taking as part of it, but non-CT members ( like myself) will prosper from other additions that interest us as well. This isn't going to be "just challenge takers, everyone else gtfo", this will be a healthy enviroment for a broader spectrum of fans, gamers, challengers, and artists to show off their opinions, skill, and ideas. Right now, Cters aren't a major part of the forums business as it is, as more poeple enjoy pulling from other stuff. Was it not you ( plural) whom mentioned in multiple posts how the forums are dying, and such? Well, this is a boot to the ass of the forum to give it a new spin, and a means for everyone to enjoy something. You should not be arguing the loss of personal boards, when your gaining a full fledge community and site! At Kayorei's expense none the less! She is trying to be more envolved with what makes this place great, and right now all the forum has become is argumenative, stagnate, and brooding for better days. The way I see it, any "new blood" coming to the site as it is, will only be met with bottom rung interference that pushes them in a corner. So, in the start over, push EVERYONE in the corner. New people will raise up, and more people will be happier in the long run. This is why in most competition, the season starts over empty every year. With the "best of the best" so popular, joe nintendo won't have a chance at gaining any real interest. Cting has been a part of kay's life, and was the reason this board was created originally, but it's draining on her with very little reward. She even admits it's a long time due that change was present, and this was the biggest way to bring the most interest to the most people. ......Armadox, you're talking as if you're already an Administrator here. You're not. Honestly, I've been concerned with your place here for a while, but after reading this... I truly hope that you are not trying to follow your own personal agenda here.
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Post by Phoenix Lego on Nov 6, 2008 20:40:39 GMT -5
I'd argue more that it's the sheer volume of random new CTers that are causing a mass stagnation in overall activity. Back when there were a few, everyone got a fairly good amount. These days, everyone wants to be famous through VG challenges... And even old timers like LE, Arashi, and I are having problems getting a consistent number. (Although I grant my drought is more due to the inability to actually do any at the moment and my long previous periods of inactivity. And I am not running through BN3-6 again just to do challenges on this comp, unless I get really bored. ... Okay, maybe BN5, just to find that damned last HP Mem. I liked the Liberations anyway... Oh wait. That 100 ninja showdown minigame. *twitch*)
Getting rid of CT boards is just further going to aggravate problems. The entire forum will be mainly kept afloat by massive random bumping, shoving people aside as we get spammed by random newbie after random newbie.
I grant that a few newcomers have really shined, but the majority of them have been 1 hit wonders who clog the board with requests for more challenges. Meanwhile, the rest of the board has turned into a chat board. If we keep up in this direction, we might as well just put a bullet in CTing's head. I hate to sound elitist, but the original purpose of this board was a simpler way for challenge takers and challengers to communicate, without dealing with all the bullshit Youtube put us through, and a little friendly chatting on the side. If we shove the challenges even further away, we might as well just get rid of them entirely and become just another random VG forum.
We've never been elitist pricks shoving noobies around. The only one guilty of that was Rekai, and he's finally been hit with the banhammer. Looooooong overdue, but that's a different matter.) And the n00bs that deserved it were smacked around until they learned or were banned. Challenges were what brought in new members, good and bad. It's been what has made this board unique, and kept it alive over time. Now... Notice it's someone who doesn't remotely care about challenges advocating an overhaul.
We do not have a dead forum, and I've always felt that the so called "problem" was overblown. The chat is booming, while CTing is on life support. I'm all for intelligent new blood, but tearing out the soul of the forums is not the way to do this.
BTW, five hundred challenges for their own board is utterly insane. Kay, you barely reached 200 before your retirement. LE's what, barely near 300?
And Armadox, for the love of Kayorei, change that avatar. It freaks the hell out of me every time I see it.
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Post by Kayorei on Nov 6, 2008 21:11:14 GMT -5
So... do you think having a full website dedicated to video game challenging with a "general forum" on the side is going to tear the soul from the whole thing? Remember, the new website and the new forum are going to be coming out at the same time. In essence, the whole thing is going to be a clean slate.
I see a lot of things I did wrong here. Several things I want to rectify. I made "Challenge... someone else!" to give the up-and-coming people a little publicity, only for it to get buried under "OCT" boards. Defeats the purpose, if you ask me. As it stands, the forum seems less about actual challenge taking and more about Effexor and Arashi and Fay and the others with their own boards. The proposed system will promote the established people and the active ones if it goes properly. There's probably other stuff that I can't think of at the moment that I'm sure is totally wrong with the forum as it stands.
The reason I consulted Armadox on the matter is that he has more experience dealing with the populous than I do and that I know him personally. There's a good reason I never thought like an admin, and that is because I can't. I don't have the mindset for administrating a forum.
The website is more free to cater to the niche we've established. The forum, however... not so much. People that are interested in the website could come to the forum to discuss things with people of similar interests, as it should be, even if it has nothing to do with the theme of the website. I've seen forums that had absolutely nothing to do with the site they were associated with.
I'll admit, I'm doing this partly to better my own position. I want a website that can support itself at the absolute least. The only way I can do that is to expand the horizons a bit to attract more people. Who knows? Some of the people drawn in for general chatting may find they love the concept of CTing. You'll never know until it's already done.
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Post by Phoenix Lego on Nov 6, 2008 21:23:38 GMT -5
I'd like more details about the website, please.. We need something that the CTers can work with...
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