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Post by Crawdaunt PWNS! on Sept 11, 2007 0:00:43 GMT -5
That's because the FF8 characters *needed* junctions. A materia-less Cloud isn't so bad, and neither is Zidane without those abilities, as their stats are, for the most part, independent of anything else. In FF8, if you didn't junction, you might as well not play the game. Go to youtube, and type ''No junction run'' and cry
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Post by Wujizah Panzermanathod on Sept 11, 2007 13:34:59 GMT -5
That's because the FF8 characters *needed* junctions. A materia-less Cloud isn't so bad, and neither is Zidane without those abilities, as their stats are, for the most part, independent of anything else. In FF8, if you didn't junction, you might as well not play the game. Go to youtube, and type ''No junction run'' and cry Of all the videos, not a single one was of FF8.
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Post by Crawdaunt PWNS! on Sept 11, 2007 16:52:19 GMT -5
oops try something like ffviii boss no junction NEVER write FF8 in the search feature. Since a lot of people (mostly fanboys) call the game with the roman numbers, not the we we usually use
also, you don't have to write ''run''
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Post by Bardpado on Sept 12, 2007 5:27:02 GMT -5
Well, actually, it all depends on how you got used to calling it.
We call them with digits, since we don't like Roman numerals while others got used to that way.
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Post by Onishiba on Sept 12, 2007 9:48:49 GMT -5
Forever with Kefka's cult! (Hated Magimaster! We went to a walkthrough just to beat the crud outa him and not get bummed by Ultima!) That guy's easy if you know how to get him rightly. Although it takes long. (Berserk, Phantom on you, suck out his MP. Yes, he dies when his MP are at 0.) *yawn* Zeromus isn't that hard either. You guys seem to not know how strategy works in a game. Always casting the nuke spells, eh? o.ô Actually I don't like the FF series so much all in all. They're ordinary RPGs. With FF11 getting online and 12 becoming a silly Diablo clone the great Round Based Battle System was doomed. A loss, but it doesn't hurt me much. There are way better RPG series out there, such as Breath of Fire, Phantasy Star or the Shining series. Unfortunately the REAL jewels are Japan only. =| If I had to decide, anyway. Best: FF6, hands down Worst: FF7. Why? I see so much similarity between 6 and 7, that I would go into "the story from 7 is a cheap copy of 6". Besides Sephiroth is a mama-boy and a horrible villain. Kefka is much more hilarous and Edea much more villainous. Sephiroth is too overhyped. And the other characters aren't that great as well. *shrug* I liked the Elite force, what was their name... you know, the ones Tseng and Reno were part of. Can't remember their name. Anyway... I'm gonna play a better RPG now: Golden Sun 2. =P
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Post by vlcrst on Sept 12, 2007 11:10:46 GMT -5
Im not a big final fantasy fan either pretty much to the fact that there are HORDES of fanboys who worship the series, claiming that its the only RPG series worth existing. Its very good I`ll give you that, but there are plenty of other excellent series like Baten Kaitos (only 2 games, but the battle system is unique in its own) and the Tales of series (search in youtube Tales of Destiny PS2, and then tell me what you think afterwards) so since I havent played manyI`d say the best one I got is Final Fantasy Tactics: The replay Value is one of the best in every game I`ve played, especially if you try the gamefaq with challenge modes. And the music its incredible
And I agree with fay, Sephiroth is WWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY too overrated
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Post by Crawdaunt PWNS! on Sept 12, 2007 11:11:05 GMT -5
Forever with Kefka's cult! (Hated Magimaster! We went to a walkthrough just to beat the crud outa him and not get bummed by Ultima!) That guy's easy if you know how to get him rightly. Although it takes long. (Berserk, Phantom on you, suck out his MP. Yes, he dies when his MP are at 0.) *yawn* Zeromus isn't that hard either. You guys seem to not know how strategy works in a game. Always casting the nuke spells, eh? o.ô Actually I don't like the FF series so much all in all. They're ordinary RPGs. With FF11 getting online and 12 becoming a silly Diablo clone the great Round Based Battle System was doomed. A loss, but it doesn't hurt me much. There are way better RPG series out there, such as Breath of Fire, Phantasy Star or the Shining series. Unfortunately the REAL jewels are Japan only. =| If I had to decide, anyway. Best: FF6, hands down Worst: FF7. Why? I see so much similarity between 6 and 7, that I would go into "the story from 7 is a cheap copy of 6". Besides Sephiroth is a mama-boy and a horrible villain. Kefka is much more hilarous and Edea much more villainous. Sephiroth is too overhyped. And the other characters aren't that great as well. *shrug* I liked the Elite force, what was their name... you know, the ones Tseng and Reno were part of. Can't remember their name. Anyway... I'm gonna play a better RPG now: Golden Sun 2. =P Agreed. People overhype Sephiroth. Granted, he killes Aeris, because he wanted to destroy the ancient, and ''destroyed'' Cloud's hometown in his frustration when he learned about his mother. But kefka killed countless people, betrayed his own emperor/allies and litteraly destroyed the world... why? Because he felt like it. <------- (This is what villain should look like) Cloud is just overated cause he's an Emo with a huge sword. I personnaly prefer Cait Sith, Barret and Cid over all the other character anydays. At least these three had a interresting past... And while it is possible to over power your character in both FFVI and VII, it is WAY easier to do so in FFVII ( One character with KOTR/W-Summon, and all three character with Counter/Mime, anyone?) And FFVI had a much cooler character backround in general. Enev with this flame on FFVII, I can't say it was the worst. The worst has to be FFX, hands Down. This game is WAY too easy. It's way to easy to overpower your character (I cause 99 999 damage to most enemies with Yuna's Phisical attacks, at 160 strenght)
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Post by Wujizah Panzermanathod on Sept 12, 2007 11:18:32 GMT -5
I've never finished FF6, so I can't say much on it.
However, Sephiroth *is* overrated. I once made a comparison topic of FF7-9 and Tactics, and said my favorite villain was ultimecia.
As for that junction thing, I just typed in "no junction run". It was in quotes, yet I didn't have to type in "run"? Is there some confusion going around?
In any case, yes, FF8 is playable without junctions. Barely. If someone was doing a low level challenge and managed to get a bunch of stat boosting items...
Screw it. I'd like to see someone beat the game without junctions.
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Post by Bardpado on Sept 12, 2007 20:30:42 GMT -5
Forever with Kefka's cult! (Hated Magimaster! We went to a walkthrough just to beat the crud outa him and not get bummed by Ultima!) That guy's easy if you know how to get him rightly. Although it takes long. (Berserk, Phantom on you, suck out his MP. Yes, he dies when his MP are at 0.) *yawn* Zeromus isn't that hard either. You guys seem to not know how strategy works in a game. Always casting the nuke spells, eh? o.ô Actually I don't like the FF series so much all in all. They're ordinary RPGs. With FF11 getting online and 12 becoming a silly Diablo clone the great Round Based Battle System was doomed. A loss, but it doesn't hurt me much. There are way better RPG series out there, such as Breath of Fire, Phantasy Star or the Shining series. Unfortunately the REAL jewels are Japan only. =| If I had to decide, anyway. Best: FF6, hands down Worst: FF7. Why? I see so much similarity between 6 and 7, that I would go into "the story from 7 is a cheap copy of 6". Besides Sephiroth is a mama-boy and a horrible villain. Kefka is much more hilarous and Edea much more villainous. Sephiroth is too overhyped. And the other characters aren't that great as well. *shrug* I liked the Elite force, what was their name... you know, the ones Tseng and Reno were part of. Can't remember their name. Anyway... I'm gonna play a better RPG now: Golden Sun 2. =P Nah! Used the Palidor thing. From all the 3D FF's which is the best? For Phoenix and I, it's 9! Hands-down! It's good tofind someone who actually appreciates FF6! More prefer FF6 than 7, though,but 9 had the most fans!
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Post by Crawdaunt PWNS! on Sept 12, 2007 21:48:32 GMT -5
For Phoenix and I, it's 9! Hands-down! It's good tofind someone who actually appreciates FF6! More prefer FF7 than 6, though,but 9 had the most fans! 9 is the best (and only good) 3d FF in the main series. Why? It came back to the original style (FFVII and VIII and X AND XII are just not final fantasies at all, storyline-wise)
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Post by Bardpado on Sept 13, 2007 6:21:54 GMT -5
Really? 9 is the only good one?
What about all the good reviews I've been hearing about FF10?
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Post by Forci S. on Sept 13, 2007 12:31:56 GMT -5
I actually liked FF7 to a point...maybe because I'm a sword-user at heart, I dunno. The ending seemed pretty abrupt, though. I have nothing to say about the Sephiroth/Cloud debate...
FF8 was fun, but as somebody else pointed out, it was basically Romeo & Juliet at its base, but twisted and thrown WAY out of proportion. The love theme is too heavy in the story. It IS probably better than FF7, though.
FF9 is probably tied along with FF8 for first in my book as far as the 3-D ones go. A fairly good plot, backstory, and of course, the almighty Crystal.
FFX was just horrible IMO. The story was vague and seemed to have quite a few holes.
By the way, Fay: they were called the Turks.
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Post by Wujizah Panzermanathod on Sept 13, 2007 14:22:26 GMT -5
Really? 9 is the only good one? What about all the good reviews I've been hearing about FF10? Too opinionated to really put much stock on, really. As I said, FF7 is a good game. But it's overhyped too much. It's like Halo: It's a good game, but not *the best ever* in their respective fields.
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Post by Crawdaunt PWNS! on Sept 14, 2007 0:23:07 GMT -5
Really? 9 is the only good one? What about all the good reviews I've been hearing about FF10? Too opinionated to really put much stock on, really. As I said, FF7 is a good game. But it's overhyped too much. It's like Halo: It's a good game, but not *the best ever* in their respective fields. Yeah, FFX really is an horrible game. Too easy, weak storyline, a really stupid and ignorant main character (Tidus) The usual Girl who is protected by the main character and must save the land (Yuna) A VERY overhyped character (Auron, although not as overhyped as Cloud, Sephiroth and the other character I'm going to mention) A total idiot that is also overhyped cause she's cute (Rikku) God, I'm so glad I sold that game. You wanna know what really destroyed FFX and VII in my opinion? These stupid side-games that contradict 100% of the main storyline of the main games. Here are examples FFVII: Rufus clearly died in the top of his tower, yet, in Advent children, he's barely hurt. Then in Dirge of Cerberus (Direct sequel to Advent Children) It is mentioned that Rufus DID die a few years ago. FFX: Tidus diseapeared, pretty much like Auron and Jecth. He diseapeared because he was basicly unreal, coming from a world of dream. He went to the Farplane at the end of FFX, never to be seen again. In FFX-II (THE worst FF IMO) If you get the perfect ending, Tidus is alive, as if nothing ever happened 2 years ago... And FFVII got/will get so many Sequel/Prequel, that it's no fun anymore. It was somewhat decent before they put so much useless side-stories to the game. Well, to be honnest, I think the FF series is pretty much dying now. FFXII got it's price dropped mad fast, I see a LOT of used FFXII copies at my EBgames, and when I saw the preview of FFXIII I was like: WTF?!?! Is that the Matrix? God they better NOT make FFXIII or else it could be their real FINAL fantasy (FF1 was supposed to be the last game Square ever made, until it became so popular it saved Square from gping Bankrupt) Oh well, just stating my opinion...
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Post by Onishiba on Sept 14, 2007 0:48:44 GMT -5
FF1 was supposed to be the last game Square ever made, until it became so popular it saved Square from gping Bankrupt Senseless trivia which every gamer should know. Still my oppinion is that the games were better when enix and Squaresoft were separated.
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