The Lost Challenge

[moose]

This challenge disappeared along with Shinryuu-san.

Game: Battle Network 3 (White)

Enemies: Flashman beta, mistman beta (challenge the omega versions if you can and want to)

Folder restrictions:
- use the same folder for both fights (!!)
- no auras
- no gigachips
- 10 sword-type chips must be in the folder
- only one wood chip against flashman
- damage cap: no chip can do more than 150 direct damage (panel modification is not direct damage)
- Folder must contain at least 6 different codes, including *
- No more than 3 of any chip
- Preset copydamage

Chip use restrictions against Flashman:
- use exactly 10, 15, or 20 chips
- do not attack unless he's at one of the corners of his area (hint: areagrab helps)
- hit him at least once when the "ones" digit in his HP is 5 (ex: 115, 25, 605)
- Use copydamage before any other chips

Chip use restrictions against Mistman:
- only attack the lamp directly (no poison or similar attacks)
- don't attack when he pops out of the lamp or the mist
- if hit by the soulgang attack, the next hit you land on him must be a sword attack
- Use copydamage before any other chips

Navicust restrictions:
- No fastgauge
- No more than 3 buster parts
- Only one solid program allowed, and it must be the same colour as another program in the NC
- Use 1-2 HP boosters

Style restriction: no restriction

Other restriction:
- Against mistman, don't let your HP fall below his once you get hit by the soulgang attack
- Against Flashman, don't get paralyzed

[Forci S.]

May 28, 2008 21:03:46 GMT -5 moose said:

- do not attack unless he's at one of the corners of his area


- Against Flashman, don't get paralyzed

Errr......I don't think so. I already have a small timeframe to destroy the bulbs, and being restricted by where Flashman is just makes it a whole lot worse. And heaven forbid one of them shows up in my back column...

Sorry, but I'm not taking this hand-me-down.

[moose]

Have you considered barriers? After all, the flashy posts just generate a 0-damage paralyzing AoE attack.

If you really think it'll be that much trouble (and maybe it is; I've yet to try this one), then just go by the restriction "don't get hit."

[Forci S.]

Nope, still too annoying...and I know EXACTLY what the problem is, too:

May 28, 2008 21:03:46 GMT -5 moose said:

Chip use restrictions against Flashman:
- use exactly 10, 15, or 20 chips
- do not attack unless he's at one of the corners of his area (hint: areagrab helps) (NO IT DOES NOT)
- hit him at least once when the "ones" digit in his HP is 5 (ex: 115, 25, 605)

^This combination of restrictions is virtually impossible from somebody this hyper. Either you drop at least one of them or I drop this.

[Shinji-kun]

You know that Geddon fixes EVERY problem against FlashMan when used with AirShoes? Bulbs have no place to appear, Neon Lights cannot go over broken panels, and Spark Arm... Sure, if he can hit you with this from back row. >_<

As of the last digit restriction - Buster?
I'm just wondering if you have to use CopyDamage each turn. If yes... You're pretty much screwed. >_<

[Forci S.]

Jun 3, 2008 15:33:13 GMT -5 Shinji-kun said:

You know that Geddon fixes EVERY problem against FlashMan when used with AirShoes? Bulbs have no place to appear, Neon Lights cannot go over broken panels, and Spark Arm... Sure, if he can hit you with this from back row. >_<

As of the last digit restriction - Buster?
I'm just wondering if you have to use CopyDamage each turn. If yes... You're pretty much screwed. >_<

.....I cannot believe that I did not think about that. Granted, that's a bit cheap, but...well, normal stuff sure isn't working. Except, that would mean having to do Mistman over again...

And it's the combination of the three: yes, Buster works, but I have to remember about shooting him with it while he's in a corner and at the same time keep track of how many chips I've used.

[moose]

Sorry I took long to respond.

- Pausing the game in a challenge like this I would consider quite allowable.
- Copydamage once is good enough. I'm just trying to eat up a space in your first turn, which is usually jammed full of chips and then fullcust.
- Go for the cheap stuff. Where the challenge giver leaves loophole can be easiest solution (which it is in this case). I'll be fine with the geddon tactic (which, admittedly, even I had not thought of)
- I thought about the F and P codes. Flashman and plantman are two of the most broken chips in BN3, and paralysis chains look good against the Flashman problem you're faced with (although you'd be cut down to one plantman chip)
- You're free to drop the restriction about using exactly 10/15/20 chips in favour of using less than 20 chips (still too hard, then just drop it outright)
- Areagrab was supposed to help because there are only 2 non-corner panels instead of 5, and a second areagrab would reduce 2 to 1.
- Keep in mind: for challenges that I found difficult myself (or that I knew would be difficult just from considering possibilities), I usually excuse a single mistake (i.e. one action that would normally void the challenge), but for challenges as complicated and difficult as these, I may even allow two, depending on what mistake.

[Forci S.]

Unfortunately for them, nobody needs a lighthouse in the Cyberworld.