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Post by Onishiba on Mar 26, 2008 3:22:30 GMT -5
Back to topic. Like Chaos Mentioned earlier, there are several games that haven't been touched: Mario Kart DS Any Digimon World A lot of Final Fantasies (So far, only i,II and IV have been unlocked by some people) Any RPG in general Any Wi-Fi Compatible game in general Strategy games,Such as Warcraft. Even MMORPG could be challengeable, such as for duels or things like that. I could even think of some animal Crossing challenge! That's only a minimal list of games... you know, there's more Mario Karts than Mario Kart DS. I even thought of unlocking Mario Kart 64 before the trouble with the free screen capturer for 25$. Anyhow, I think I did a rather innovation with my unlock of Fire Emblem - the first strategy game to be able for Challenging. We'll see what we'll be able to think of... I WILL unlock a new game for my 100th Challenge special. I just don't know yet, what it will be. <.<" BUT it will be new.
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Post by Bardpado on Mar 26, 2008 6:10:07 GMT -5
This is too long for me to read... I still have 4 other things on my personal agenda, so I'll make this quick.
1. I will certainly not leave Challenge Taking. I'll be the last standing if I have to. I've survived loneliness for the longest time, this is just like that. *Gets mauled by the more troublesome people*
2. I have expanded to games not reached and plan to continue... (If only Summon Night allowed to rebattle bosses... But, I really wanna go do some YGO.)
3. Optimism is the best there is right now. I've (re-)seen the light.
4. I will not allow this forum to die. I'll do what I have to do! We've grown too fond of each other to separate now. It really makes me want to meet you guys in person... I get the money and just you wait! 0.o;;
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Post by Crawdaunt PWNS! on Mar 26, 2008 13:00:41 GMT -5
Come to Quebec city then
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Post by Barrell volt on Mar 27, 2008 11:52:11 GMT -5
Well actually this community is growing I highly doubt that we would disband for this reason: Expansions. Yeah games are constantly becoming out dated and boring and new games are constantly coming out so that doesn't mean our expansions will stop we can easily expand and expand till the day we die. I also agree with Bard I stand by challenge taking and will NOT quit.
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TeknoSpazz
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Post by TeknoSpazz on Mar 27, 2008 12:11:51 GMT -5
On a forum I'm working on, I'm having thoughts as to put a seperate section for challenge taking. The forum itself is mainly for Walkthroughs, but...
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Post by Inebriated Gamer on Mar 27, 2008 14:50:58 GMT -5
*sips his coffee, and reads through the topic* Wow, what.. interesting ideas you seem to have there. Though, to be truthful, as an outsider I see your going about your problem the wrong way. I've built numberous forums before, based on this or that, and I guess it's given me some incite on how communities work... First, your "I wish things where the way they used to be" arguement is deeply flawed. Forums require new people to breath, it's a nicessity that as your old members are cycled out for their various reasons, new fresh minds come in. Otherwise you hit a point where the material becomes stale regardless of how many twists you give it. Now, I'll admit that you'll find many a noob within the novice, but what you need to do, is instead of complaining about them, try to work with them untill they become an effective member of the board. An example of the wrong way to progress is... *kills the n00b* Get out, n00bsauce. Nobody likes you. Dude, what about me rubs you the wrong way? The low postcount. Here we see Gospelman harassing a new player, now although this isn't new to forum going ( you'll always have trolls) this is the easiest method to lose your new player base, and easily cutting your own throat as a community. The second you start building an elitist attitude, you begin to place yourselves above your community. Another major problem is the method you use to challenge take in general. Most new players who come in have to adhere to a relitively strict game structure to even participate. New players are generally of the younger populous, and only the "new gen" games seem to even be noted, such as the battle network series. And before you tell me it's been out forever, I've been around this since the NES. Battle Network is still a new series in comparison. I saw with my entrance in the tournament that any retro gaming was generally seen as bad on the forum for being.. well old. Your going to have to expand your interests sooner or later, and that's going to mean dipping into the retro games as well. Yes, the next flashy thing to come out is great and all, but really there's only so many challenges you can make for BN before you've covered everything, and with so many challenge takers now, your going to run into that sooner. The worst threat you have to this community is stale material, and competing forums branching out, like Furry's for instance. You guys need to start pulling from more things, and rely on those who want to take challenges. You have fourteen forums for fourteen players whom aren't doing much, and a fifteenth crammed with starting new players whom aren't really getting much coverage. The forum's set up does have a lot to do with the elitist mindset.. My suggestion would be to work on the forum's set up if you want to further this forum's usage. Instread of more single elite forums given to specific players change it so that you have it for taking challenges in say a forum for retro gamers, and new tech gamers, and rpgists, etc. Diversify your forums to fan base, and stop getting iritated when your forum is doing well enough to get attention, sure the new guys can be annoying, but you can either find a way to deal with all this now, or fight against it later. The tournament was a good idea, but creating an award system, and things to do will increase the drawing power of this forum. It's got potential, but it wasn't set up to have really to many people on it, and I think you've almost hit your limit as it's set up. My suggestion would be to gather yourselves together, and think of a way to expand this that will give everyone fair footing, and make it worth coming here again and again. *takes another sip from his mug, and looks to his comic book again*
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Post by TeknoSpazz on Mar 27, 2008 15:00:33 GMT -5
*Looks through post* *Looks through post AGAIN* 0_o *Looks through post ONCE MORE* I really wasn't expecting that... o_oU But it's true, nonetheless.
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Post by L .H. C. on Mar 27, 2008 21:58:16 GMT -5
>_<
I hate when the Old Mannosuke comes here. He's always right, and he always seems to aim the flamethrower in my general direction.
So what if I'm elitist? No forum is complete without elitism. Go to TUS, go to GFAQs. Both are huge communities, and also are giant balls of elitism. 'Sides, if I were all nice and mushy with all GRAMMAR-RAPING USELESS POSTING NOOBS the forum would be overrun with these subhuman internet beings. I really don't mind kicking off a few good newbies, if I can kick out the bulk of n00bs.
[rantrant/]
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Post by Inebriated Gamer on Mar 28, 2008 6:11:25 GMT -5
I'm not always right, but as I've said I've created many forums, I've also seen a lots of them fold up into oblivion too. One learns from their mistakes, and it doesn't take much to break a forum. I didn't flame you, merely used a good example for what it was.
I'm going to take a guess, and say that TUS and GFAQ are money-making or license based. You get a diffrent breed of user there, and they can afford to be elitist, because they have something that is providing a service. I'm also betting that their forum is multi-thousand user too.
This forum, being still basically in it's infancy isn't going to prosper from that same attitude as that. There's no justice in lording over those whom enter as they're just as likely to leave again. The Challenge Takers aren't making money to finance advertising, part of a bigger corperation, or even connected to another site. Hell it's not even hosting links really. So being nice to those coming in is the ONLY thing you can offer them to stay.
What we have here is an easy double edged sword. Your forum is based on challenge taking gamers, which is going to mean that the majority of those who enter are going to be gaming-on-their-parents'-dime gamers, who only have the lastest copy of whatever fad game is around at the time.
Seeing as I'm one of the, if not the oldest one here, I'm guessing that about two-thirds of your community is like that. There's nothing wrong with young players with something to prove, but your going to get the spelling impared, the l33t, the mem-meists, and the min-maxers.
The best thing you can do is explain to them that their spelling causes them to lose whatever credability they have as a gamer, and try to give them examples of what they could do to make themselves better. I understand your aggression towards the- " I R S0 GR34T!!!1!" (you know, I've never understood the fact that you usually find a one in the middle of that, you have to lift your finger to get a one, so it makes no sense why it'd be there..) halo pwning player with a big mouth.
If they fail to understand, then let a mod straighten them out, it's really not your position to be elitist, because for every five "noobs" you send running, ten cool players that could have expanded the forum and given fresh challenges see what you've done and walked off too.
Same with the vent thread, personal grudges should be taken to pm. Because what you have with the vent is a topic dedicated to all that isn't working with the forum at the moment in an easy to follow manner.
But, that and more can easily be covered if you can have a meeting.
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Post by Forci S. on Mar 28, 2008 12:38:58 GMT -5
I'm going to take a guess, and say that TUS and GFAQ are money-making or license based. You get a diffrent breed of user there, and they can afford to be elitist, because they have something that is providing a service. I'm also betting that their forum is multi-thousand user too. You're right on the second point, but not the first. TUS (AKA The Undersquare) is just run by elitist snobs that make even Rekai look nice, while GameFAQs is chock-full of the kind of user that I think we agree messes up forums: the- " I R S0 GR34T!!!1!" halo pwning player with a big mouth. Over there, it becomes pretty much necessary to be tough on new people, since most of them do tend to be like the above. What we have here is an easy double edged sword. Your forum is based on challenge taking gamers, which is going to mean that the majority of those who enter are going to be gaming-on-their-parents'-dime gamers, who only have the lastest copy of whatever fad game is around at the time. Seeing as I'm one of the, if not the oldest one here, I'm guessing that about two-thirds of your community is like that. There's nothing wrong with young players with something to prove, but your going to get the spelling impared, the l33t, the mem-meists, and the min-maxers. Actually, the large majority of members who have joined the forum only show up once in a blue moon to give challenges to specific people (mostly Kayorei herself, of course) and do not take challenges themselves. The large majority of members who do not vanish when she is under a challenge lock are the regular members who have been around for some time. ...I'm not sure if I just proved your point or not... To be fair, though, there are a fair number of people who come in to take challenges and actually use SNES-era games (specifically DKC for the most part). Of course, there is nothing wrong with taking challenges in newer, more "popular" games, since that brings with it a larger fanbase to get challenges from. Same with the vent thread, personal grudges should be taken to pm. Because what you have with the vent is a topic dedicated to all that isn't working with the forum at the moment in an easy to follow manner. Actually, it was originally directed to real-life problems, not problems on the forum. A specific couple of people just chose to use it as such......actually, it was mainly just the one.
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Post by Shinji-kun on Mar 28, 2008 13:02:13 GMT -5
The problem with games not played before could be that people haven't played those games and cannot give a good challenges. Guidelines don't help in this case. So, you'll get challenges from friends who played them only, or get a basic ones like "Finish Stage x within y seconds without getting hit".
Only games that are played often here are DKC and MMBN. Some people play MM series as well. Others are used by one person or two.
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Post by Inebriated Gamer on Mar 28, 2008 13:37:29 GMT -5
This isn't a problem of the forum itself, but the limits placed on the games by the gamers themselves. If you set it up to have more types of games present, more types of players will show themselves.
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Post by Crawdaunt PWNS! on Mar 28, 2008 13:49:53 GMT -5
Only games that are played often here are DKC and MMBN. Some people play MM series as well. Others are used by one person or two. Actually, I think there are more people playing MM than DKC, if we count out the tournament players, only me and Quirino pay DKC
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Post by LightEffexor on Mar 28, 2008 19:10:13 GMT -5
*points to my Sonic challenges*
Wait, am I still the only one still doing those?
*pumps fist*
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Post by Bardpado on Mar 28, 2008 21:51:36 GMT -5
*points to my Sonic challenges* Wait, am I still the only one still doing those? *pumps fist* *points at MMX* Why do you think I'm the only one? Because that's our trademark... Not to mention I can never get past a few levels in any Sonic game. IDK why, but I just get frustrated especially if there are so many creeps in one area and me without any barrier or shortcut to pass through.
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